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Should France Invoke Article 5?
« on: July 15, 2016, 07:17:23 AM »
I believe it is safe to assume that France is under attack by ISIS.

Article 5 of the NATO treaty states in part:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.



Is it time for France to invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty and compel it's NATO allies to send ground troops to Iraq and Syria and defeat ISIS?

At least Candia would have to get off of their arses and do something.

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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 07:29:26 AM »
Obamas fvcking clueless. :lol

Hilliarys even worse. :monkey2
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 07:34:53 AM »
Obamas fvcking clueless. :lol

Hilliarys even worse. :monkey2

No shit.  Thanks a lot for this, Obama.  :lol
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 08:19:24 AM »
I think France would be willing but, of course the U.S. (Obama) won't want to do anything.  France should just say fvck it and go bomb the cockroaches.  It amazes me that the "jayvee team" (Obummers words not mine) ISIS has no naval or air support yet they continue to do shit like this.  Bomb the fvckers already.
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 09:21:29 AM »
I believe it is safe to assume that France is under attack by ISIS.

Article 5 of the NATO treaty states in part:


Is it because his name was Muhammed?  A French citizen kills 100 people +/- in his HOME town of Nice, and suddenly it's ISIS?

I don't fvcking know and neither do you, but I'm not making dumbass, knee-jerk assumptions just because they support my political bias.

Unlike Hillary with Benghazi, I'll wait until more information is available before making shit up
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 09:39:24 AM »
Is it because his name was Muhammed?  A French citizen kills 100 people +/- in his HOME town of Nice, and suddenly it's ISIS?

I don't fvcking know and neither do you, but I'm not making dumbass, knee-jerk assumptions just because they support my political bias.

But retributive bombing against people who weren't responsible for an action has worked so well for the United States in the past, certainly its worth consideration here.  :uhh
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 09:41:27 AM »
Lets bomb the shit out of Kansas City. :koolaid
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 09:45:17 AM »
Lets bomb the shit out of Kansas City. :koolaid

Kansas City?  Nobody cares about Kansas City.  The only time you even hear about Kansas City is in a punchline of a joke about how irrelevant something is.
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 09:52:45 AM »
Is it because his name was Muhammed?  A French citizen kills 100 people +/- in his HOME town of Nice, and suddenly it's ISIS?

I don't fvcking know and neither do you, but I'm not making dumbass, knee-jerk assumptions just because they support my political bias.

Unlike Hillary with Benghazi, I'll wait until more information is available before making shit up

You are quite dim, aren't you?
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 10:01:40 AM »
You are quite dim, aren't you?

For not buying into a media fed frenzy that suits my political bias?  Yeah, you're a smart one.  :uhh

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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 11:06:01 AM »
Is it because his name was Muhammed?  A French citizen kills 100 people +/- in his HOME town of Nice, and suddenly it's ISIS?

I don't fvcking know and neither do you, but I'm not making dumbass, knee-jerk assumptions just because they support my political bias.

Unlike Hillary with Benghazi, I'll wait until more information is available before making shit up

ISIS has claimed responsibility, asswipe.

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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 11:07:10 AM »
ISIS has claimed responsibility, asswipe.

I'm not saying its not ISIS, but don't they claim responsibility when anything bad happens in the civilized world??
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 11:15:19 AM »
I've read several articles, and have yet to see where ISIS has claimed the attack.  Not necessarily saying you're wrong, but NBC and CNN and WSJ haven't said anything. 

Only reference I found so far was a tweet by an ISIS supporter.

And that Pro-ISIS groups are celebrating - but that doesn't really mean shit.
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 11:21:58 AM »
They're already at war with ISIS. Does France just want to force all of NATO on board. This guy was never in Syria, no evidence he was funded by the group in the Middle East, just inspired by them.

Also Canada has been working to defeat ISIS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/live-commons-debate-isis-1.3452085

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/isis-vote-mission-iraq-syria-1.3481607
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Re: Should France Invoke Article 5?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2016, 11:32:49 AM »
This guy was never in Syria, no evidence he was funded by the group in the Middle East, just inspired by them.


Could it be that Boges is actually a helluva lot smarter than dash B?

Wow. 

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