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« on: July 16, 2017, 08:06:20 pm »



Roger Federer rolled Marin Cilic in three comfortable sets for his eighth Wimbledon singles title.
It makes him the most prolific men's Wimbledon champ of all-time.

Going in, he, Pete Sampras, and Willie Renshaw all had seven singles titles.

Renshaw won his titles back in the day (1800's) when Wimbledon had a challenge round format.
The defending champ got a bye all the way to the final.
All the other slaps had to battle it out -- and then the prevailing slap went up against the defending champ, who had been resting up for almost 2 weeks (lol).
It was obviously a format which tilted the table drastically in favor of the reigning champion.

In the modern era, Pete and Roger are THE guys as far as Wimbledon goes.

Does Roger's eight title lift him over Pete as the top W dog?

They actually played each other at Wimbledon back when Federer was just coming up and Sampras was on his way out.
Roger won 7-5 in the 5th set.

Personally, I might rate Pete slightly higher on grass (Wimbledon) than Roger.
I think he was able to do more "easy" damage with his serve than Federer.
He had more blunt force and he was able to hold his serve in easier fashion.

Federer's forehand is wicked sick, though.
And his movement might be the best I've ever seen.
GREAT all-court player.
As complete a player as we'll ever see.


19 Grand Slam titles for Roger Federer.

#20 at the U.S. Open?

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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2017, 09:29:06 am »
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 09:44:40 am »
Top 10 male tennis champions of the last 50 years, imo

10. Mats Wilander - 7 slam titles, B. Becker and S. Edberg were considered for this spot
9. A. Agassi - Sampras' top rival, 8 slam wins, career slam
8. J. Connors - the Pete Rose of tennis, electric
7. I. Lendl - 8 straight U.S. Open finals
6. J. McEnroe - gifted, high-strung artist, greatest doubles player ever
5. N. Djokovic - racked up 12 grand slam titles, career slam
4. B. Borg - 5 straight Wimbledon wins, 6 French titles
3. R. Nadal - leads Federer head-to-head, 10 French titles, career slam
2. P. Sampras - dominant, 7 Wimbledon and 5 U.S. Open titles - zero French finals
1. R. Federer - most slams, career slam, best all-around player, imo



Rod Laver won the grand slam in 1969 and clearly would be ranked ahead of some (most, or even all) on this list, but he was really a part of the era before 1969 -- with Emerson, Rosewall, etc.

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 09:53:34 am »
Who cares.

This hottie won the ladies title.

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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 09:59:18 am »
I watched about 2 minutes of highlights of the women's final and it was disgusting and unwatchable.

Bitches screaming and screeching with every stroke.


Not IN.




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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 10:05:27 am »
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 10:05:32 am »
Who cares.

This hottie won the ladies title.


That dude needs to eat a Clearasil terlit sammich.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 10:22:40 am »
by the way, since we now have a tennis discussion, the statement that john mcenroe said
about serena being ranked 700th if she played in the mens circuit is a stretch but not by much.

there is a huge difference in serve speeds between men and women.  the 700th ranked dude probably
serves 20mph faster than anything serena ever sees.  thats a pretty big difference.  she wouldn't have
the reaction time.

also, her serves to the men would be softballs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/06/29/johnmcenroe-says-regrets-comments-serena-williams-surprised/
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 04:43:48 pm »
I would probably allow her to chew on my crank.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 05:41:08 pm »
by the way, since we now have a tennis discussion, the statement that john mcenroe said
about serena being ranked 700th if she played in the mens circuit is a stretch but not by much.

there is a huge difference in serve speeds between men and women.  the 700th ranked dude probably
serves 20mph faster than anything serena ever sees.  thats a pretty big difference.  she wouldn't have
the reaction time.

also, her serves to the men would be softballs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/06/29/johnmcenroe-says-regrets-comments-serena-williams-surprised/

You're right.

Because the men and women are playing during the same two weeks at all the major tournaments, some viewers get the vibe that the women are sort of on a similar level.
They can't discern the HUGE difference in level between the men and women.

There is simply no comparison.

Take a very good division one men's college player and put him up against Serena -- and I like the dude's chances.

Think of the difference between the NBA and the WNBA.
It's the same in tennis.





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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 05:43:47 pm »
You're right.

Because the men and women are playing during the same two weeks at all the major tournaments, some viewers get the vibe that the women are sort of on a similar level.
They can't discern the HUGE difference in level between the men and women.

There is simply no comparison.

Take a very good division one men's college player and put him up against Serena -- and I like the dude's chances.

Think of the difference between the NBA and the WNBA.
It's the same in tennis.
Is the net lower and the ball smaller in women's tennis? She probably has more testosterone than you.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 07:02:07 pm »
The fastest women's serve on record is 131 mph.
The fastest's men's is 167 mph.

Just take that across the board...

Forehand speed, backhand speed, foot speed, overhead speed...

The woman is just grossly inferior physically -- and it's no contest.


If Serena was up against the #700 man in the world, her speed of shot would not be anything unsettling to the man.

In fact, her speed of shot would be likely be less than what he is accustomed to going up against.

And she is slower on her feet than the men the guy is accustomed to going up against.

It's a recipe for disaster for Serena, and she knows this to be so.


The only way she could beat the #700 man is if he choked.







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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 07:38:53 pm »
Billie Jean King neat Bobby Riggs.

He was like 86 years old at the time.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 07:48:49 pm »
BJ King was 29 and Riggs was 55.

Most folks forget that Riggs played a "battle of the sexes" match in the year prior to the match against King, which was in 1974.

In 1973 the 54 year old Riggs played world #1 Margaret Court -- and he crushed her.


Riggs was obviously a known hustler and gambler.
It was widely speculated that he bet against himself and threw the match against BJ King.

He vehemently denied it, of course.

Who knows.






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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 08:44:47 pm »
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