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Poker Etiquette?
« on: July 29, 2018, 11:29:47 am »
First time in my many years and thousands of poker games played that I've ever heard this...

Played in a casual Texas hold 'em neighborhood game last night, bourbon and $20 buy-in. Six players and the host and two other guys vote to not increase the blinds.   ::)  I don't want to rock the boat at this dude's house so I go along with the pussy rules. We basically play "merry-go-round" poker for 3-1/2 hours except one dude who bets on everything and goes out after his second buy-in. The rest of us are basically hanging around, waiting to take a shot. My hole cards have been shit all night though I manage to hit a couple of decent pots to give me a slight stack advantage. After four hours, we decide to go once more around the table, then cash out. I'm to the left of the big blind and the host is dealing. I get 7/9 suited, call the pot and one guy drops. Flop goes 2-6-8 unsuited, everybody checks. A K gets flipped on the turn, again, unsuited with the three flop cards so no flush is possible. Everybody checks again. The river card is a 5 of diamonds giving me a straight, blinds check to me, then I check to the dealer/host. This dude hasn't bet more than $2.00 worth of chips all night. He bets $5.00 so I know he probably has trip 5s. I proceed to push all-in. After he gives me a death stare, he counts his chips and pushes all of his chips in. I show him my straight, he shows his trip 5s and proceeds to lecture me on how check/raising is "bad etiquette in a "friendly" game. I was fvcking flabbergasted...I have never heard this before. The guy told me I will not be invited back to his house for future games. Good!  :lol

Anyone think check/raising is bad etiquette? I mean, it's fvcking poker for crying out loud.
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 01:29:08 pm »
That is some pussy poker. 
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 01:46:13 pm »
Going home with someone else's money in your wallet isn't very nice either.
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 02:08:36 pm »
Hope you clogged his shitter on the way out.

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 06:08:27 pm »
Hayta, I like you, but TL

Blinds not raised in cash game? Not pussy.
Not being able to check raise? Pussy.

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 08:49:16 pm »
Dude was mad cuz he lost. I'm sure he wouldn't say a damn thing if he won
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2018, 09:56:53 pm »
Lol...Jeff said "friendly" and "death stare" about a poker game.  Sounds like said host has a passive/aggressive complex.  Or maybe herpes simplex. :popcorn

Poker is another activity that we can use less of on TV.  Unless it's being played in a smoky room with guys who might or might not be carrying concealed weapons.  Somewhat similar to "The World Series Of Dice" that Chappelle did.
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 09:53:59 pm »
First time in my many years and thousands of poker games played that I've ever heard this...

Played in a casual Texas hold 'em neighborhood game last night, bourbon and $20 buy-in. Six players and the host and two other guys vote to not increase the blinds.   ::)  I don't want to rock the boat at this dude's house so I go along with the pussy rules. We basically play "merry-go-round" poker for 3-1/2 hours except one dude who bets on everything and goes out after his second buy-in. The rest of us are basically hanging around, waiting to take a shot. My hole cards have been shit all night though I manage to hit a couple of decent pots to give me a slight stack advantage. After four hours, we decide to go once more around the table, then cash out. I'm to the left of the big blind and the host is dealing. I get 7/9 suited, call the pot and one guy drops. Flop goes 2-6-8 unsuited, everybody checks. A K gets flipped on the turn, again, unsuited with the three flop cards so no flush is possible. Everybody checks again. The river card is a 5 of diamonds giving me a straight, blinds check to me, then I check to the dealer/host. This dude hasn't bet more than $2.00 worth of chips all night. He bets $5.00 so I know he probably has trip 5s. I proceed to push all-in. After he gives me a death stare, he counts his chips and pushes all of his chips in. I show him my straight, he shows his trip 5s and proceeds to lecture me on how check/raising is "bad etiquette in a "friendly" game. I was fvcking flabbergasted...I have never heard this before. The guy told me I will not be invited back to his house for future games. Good!  :lol

Anyone think check/raising is bad etiquette? I mean, it's fvcking poker for crying out loud.

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2019, 04:10:48 pm »
Sorry I'm late...

I have never played in a game where check-raising is bad etiquette. However, if you look at the posted rules on the walls of some poker rooms, you will see a rule that specifically states that check-raising is legal. This is because it used to not be. I don't know exactly when, but it was. In 2019, though, check-raising is a widely-accepted strategy.

Regardless, if he gets that upset about losing $20, you're wasting your time in that game anyway.

Let me know if you ever need any strategy advice.
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2019, 05:47:25 pm »

I have strategy questions regarding a hand if you have some time. Maybe you have some advice?

There's 4 players left at the table. I'm big blind. Blinds are 40k. 2 players fold to the small blind who calls the 20k and says out loud that he has a weak hand.

I have King/Jack offsuit. I look over his chips, contemplating a raise. The player tells me he's calling if I raise unless I go all in. He then says he still might call if I go all in and asks for my chip count. I decide to raise the pot 120k. The player then asks officially how many chips I have remaining (which is 600k) then goes over the top and calls all in.

He has me covered but I decide to call. I show my KJ and he flips over Ace/2 suited. The flop is 2/3/10 rainbow. I'm drawing semi-dead on the flop. The turn is a 7 of diamonds. No help for me. Finally a 6 on the river and I busted out.

Questions

Did I over play King/Jack?

Am I someone to learn from?

Do I deserve any applause?

Is my career finished?

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2019, 05:55:36 pm »
I have strategy questions regarding a hand if you have some time. Maybe you have some advice?

There's 4 players left at the table. I'm big blind. Blinds are 40k. 2 players fold to the small blind who calls the 20k and says out loud that he has a weak hand.

I have King/Jack offsuit. I look over his chips, contemplating a raise. The player tells me he's calling if I raise unless I go all in. He then says he still might call if I go all in and asks for my chip count. I decide to raise the pot 120k. The player then asks officially how many chips I have remaining (which is 600k) then goes over the top and calls all in.

He has me covered but I decide to call. I show my KJ and he flips over Ace/2 suited. The flop is 2/3/10 rainbow. I'm drawing semi-dead on the flop. The turn is a 7 of diamonds. No help for me. Finally a 6 on the river and I busted out.

Questions

Did I over play King/Jack?

Am I someone to learn from?

Do I deserve any applause?

Is my career finished?

TIA

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2019, 05:58:01 pm »
I have strategy questions regarding a hand if you have some time. Maybe you have some advice?

There's 4 players left at the table. I'm big blind. Blinds are 40k. 2 players fold to the small blind who calls the 20k and says out loud that he has a weak hand.

I have King/Jack offsuit. I look over his chips, contemplating a raise. The player tells me he's calling if I raise unless I go all in. He then says he still might call if I go all in and asks for my chip count. I decide to raise the pot 120k. The player then asks officially how many chips I have remaining (which is 600k) then goes over the top and calls all in.

He has me covered but I decide to call. I show my KJ and he flips over Ace/2 suited. The flop is 2/3/10 rainbow. I'm drawing semi-dead on the flop. The turn is a 7 of diamonds. No help for me. Finally a 6 on the river and I busted out.

Questions

Did I over play King/Jack?

Am I someone to learn from?

Do I deserve any applause?

Is my career finished?

TIA
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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2019, 05:58:23 pm »
Rationalizing bets. :lol

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2019, 07:31:07 pm »
You can't answer this question without having seen his play over the hands you have played.  I assume this is a tournament?

Was he overly aggressive or tight?

What was the money cut off, did you cash or was it at 3 players? 

How much did you have, did you need to make a move or did you have time. 

You were 40% to win before the flop and 25% to win after the flop.  K J off is not the worst hand to play if you need to make a move.  I would rather go with that then get bled to death by blinds waiting for a better hand.

If by raising the 120K did you put yourself into a position to where you going to have to call.  If so you were better off pushing all in and forcing him to make the call.  Be the aggressor not the defender.  If not then you should have laid down and filed his aggression away for when you had a better hand.   

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Re: Poker Etiquette?
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2020, 04:25:15 am »
How much time do you have to make a decision? Did he call the clock on you? What is this? Hes got a weak hand AND hes got you covered. You wanna do this, you do this properly. What you think hes there to give his chips away to you?

But putting all your money in with KJ offsuit(calling)..... this is not someone to learn from. It was time for you to go. Look at how you were playing that hand, look how ugly that is. You're a professional player on the Stucknut Poker Tour and he did that to you? You're a terrible player. This is disgraceful. You played that as bad as you can, your career is finished.


What poker schools have you been to? If you read my poker strategies I tell everyone to never overplay KJ. CA, you know thats the hand.  :koolaid

 :lol Had you covered like a baby.
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