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J - Dog

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Banning Free Speech
« on: August 08, 2018, 05:33:46 pm »
Happened with Alex Jones and Info Wars.
That's the start.
Why?

Google, Spotify, Facebook, and  Apple all dropped him on the same day.

Hate Speech. How does one determine that? Who becomes the arbiter?

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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 05:39:27 pm »
Quote from: J - Dog on August 08, 2018, 05:33:46 pm
Happened with Alex Jones and Info Wars.
That's the start.
Why?

Google, Spotify, Facebook, and  Apple all dropped him on the same day.

Hate Speech. How does one determine that? Who becomes the arbiter?

I thought you told us that a baker could refuse service to a gay couple because its their business.  Why can't Google, Spotify, Facebook, and Apple do the same?
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"I took all the same classes as you at a much bigger D1 school."  "The 3/5 compromise was about the abolition of slavery." "Nobody in USA lacks healthcare."  "Alex Jones is true journalism"  :lol

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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 05:47:00 pm »
Oh shiiiiiii

 :popcorn
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 05:58:34 pm »
Quote from: Snakeeyes on August 08, 2018, 05:39:27 pm
I thought you told us that a baker could refuse service to a gay couple because its their business.  Why can't Google, Spotify, Facebook, and Apple do the same?
Because they aren't even nearly the same comparison. On many levels; so spare the ineffectual debate on that point, please.

And segway that train of thought into  now the next step of banning Religion you don't agree with.. such as Islam for wantonly abusing women.
You certainly aren't calling to Ban Muslims. merely cherry picking a small Christian bakery.
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 06:00:53 pm »
Why not?  If I can choose who I do business with, I can choose who I do business with.  Bakery, radio station, hardware store, restaurant, or porn shop.  fvck you if you don't like it.
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 06:06:42 pm »
You want to talk about banning free speech?  What kind of dumbass authoritarian position is this??


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/07/trump-should-able-close-news-outlets-republicans-say-poll/925536002/
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 06:07:27 pm »
Quote from: Snakeeyes on August 08, 2018, 06:00:53 pm
Why not?  If I can choose who I do business with, I can choose who I do business with.  Bakery, radio station, hardware store, restaurant, or porn shop.  fvck you if you don't like it.
You clearly aren't seeing the bigger picture.
Or the complete bias, hypocrisy, and double standards.
Yes, business is business, but the standards you proclaim to endorse are being violated.
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2018, 06:11:23 pm »
Quote from: J - Dog on August 08, 2018, 06:07:27 pm
You clearly aren't seeing the bigger picture.
Or the complete bias, hypocrisy, and double standards.
Yes, business is business, but the standards you proclaim to endorse are being violated.

On this site, you argued that you should be able to do business with who you like.  They don't like him.  fvck him.  Just because it points out YOUR hypocrisy doesn't change that fact.
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2018, 06:14:24 pm »
Quote from: Snakeeyes on August 08, 2018, 06:06:42 pm
You want to talk about banning free speech?  What kind of dumbass authoritarian position is this??


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/07/trump-should-able-close-news-outlets-republicans-say-poll/925536002/

You cite some obscure poll that hasn't/won't result in any action, but defend the actual actions of colluding tech giants.
You are No Master Debator :banana
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2018, 06:21:30 pm »
Quote from: J - Dog on August 08, 2018, 06:14:24 pm
You cite some obscure poll that hasn't/won't result in any action, but defend the actual actions of colluding tech giants.
You are No Master Debator :banana

And you are no master speller.

We're still waiting for you to tell us how you're not being a hypocrite.   :popcorn
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2018, 06:23:20 pm »
You're blinded by your progressivism and can't read the tea leaves, Snakeeyes.

Please re-read 1984 as I have. (assuming you have at least once) The globalists have been ratcheting it up.
Control speech, control thought.
And the arbiters of that thought are the AI algorithms of the tech giants who are modern Oligarchs taking control of information.
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2018, 06:28:12 pm »
Quote from: J - Dog on August 08, 2018, 06:23:20 pm
You're blinded by your progressivism and can't read the tea leaves, Snakeeyes.

Please re-read 1984 as I have.


Did you see when Trump told everyone to "not believe what they see and read"??  :lol


We're still waiting...   :popcorn
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2018, 06:33:26 pm »
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2018, 07:54:33 pm »
waaaaa!!  :'(

wheres muh freedom to bea gerk an everyone luv meh no madder what i say, hate teh gays tho  :lol
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Re: Banning Free Speech
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2018, 08:34:43 pm »
Quote from: J - Dog on August 08, 2018, 05:33:46 pm
Happened with Alex Jones and Info Wars.
That's the start.
Why?

Google, Spotify, Facebook, and  Apple all dropped him on the same day.

Hate Speech. How does one determine that? Who becomes the arbiter?

Whether any of those outlets allows Alex Jones has nothing to do with free speech.  Free Speech has to do with the Government not a bunch of companies.   

Also SE is right in his comparison.  If the bakery doesn't have to bake a cake than these companies don't have to post or allow Alex Jones to post on their sites. 

I will go one further.  Is Steve violating CA's free speech whenever he gets banned?
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