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Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« on: June 01, 2021, 05:52:59 am »
"Who? Who cares?"
You might say this.

Well, yes.
But there are some bigger sports issues at play here.

Osaka is currently ranked #2 in the female tennis world.
She has won the last two majors.

She refused to participate in the mandatory post-match press conference after her 1st round win at the French Open, and she was hit with a $15,000 fine.
Apparently all four of the major tournaments are in solidarity on this issue.
I'm not sure where the player's association comes down on this.

After being hit with the fine, Osaka, 22 years old, dropped out of the tournament.

She issued a statement which said, paraphrasing, that she has battled depression and mental health issues for a number of years.
She has social anxiety and it becomes very problematic for her when she is confronted with awkward or uncomfortable questions in press conference settings.
Rather than absorbing $15,000 fines after each win, and being a distraction to the event, she felt it best to drop out.


What about this?

She didn't drop out because performing in the arena is too much for her.
She dropped out because she isn't down with facing the media, and if the powers-that-be declare that she has to face the media or be fined, she needs to pack it in.

If you ever watch tennis losers in their post-match media sessions you'll see that they are sour, grumpy, and sometimes combative if they feel a reporter is saying things they don't want to hear.
They definitely DO NOT enjoy being in that room.

So if you set a precedent by letting Osaka slide on the media appearances, you might then get a slew of players opting out, especially when coming off a loss.
You know, mental health and stuff.


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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 06:16:00 am »
Someone should punch her in the face. :lol
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 07:40:52 am »
Oh yeah, poptard is a tennis guy.

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 08:28:05 am »
She's also arguably the best player in the world.

Not sure it's worth losing one of your main draws to stick to some rule about media availability.

Both sides are being stubborn here, but she's the one people come to see.
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 08:43:01 am »
I admire the young lady's chutzpah.

"Oh...fine me $15,000?"

"Go fvck yourself".

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 09:33:10 am »
I admire the young lady's chutzpah.

"Oh...fine me $15,000?"

"Go fvck yourself".

 :koolaid

True.
But I don't think that's what is going on here.

Consider...


If Osaka had gotten to the semifinals (a pretty safe bet), she would have earned $454 000.
It is actually quite possible/likely that she would have made the finals, or even won the event -- and earned a lot more than that.
But let's be conservative.

By winning five matches (to get to the semis) she would have racked up fines of $75,000 for not speaking to the press.
So she would have come away from the event with just a bit under $400,000.

As it is, she came away $15,000 in the hole.
Not only that, she blew a chance to win another major, which would have been her 3rd in a row.
She also badly hurt her chances of reaching #1 in the world.

That is quite a self-inflicted wound she decided to deliver to herself.

She is also not embroiled in any kind of feud with the media.

So my read on this situation is that she is not trying to be "uppity," or bratty, or a kunt.
She could have rolled like that and played all of the matches -- and maybe even had won the event.

Nope.
My read here is that she has a legit mental issue.

In fact, there was an incident with her and the press after one of her matches at Wimbledon two years ago.
She broke down in tears during the post-match press conference.

If it is in fact a real mental issue, I assume most people would say that she should get professional help so that she can fulfill her obligation to speak to the press after her matches.

Then I would ask you...

Why should the players be required to speak to the media?

Players in other sports sometimes do not.

You might remember that one of the great left handed pitchers of all time, S. Carlton, refused to speak to the media for nearly all of his career.

Why can't the tennis players just choose not to speak?

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 10:06:25 am »
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2021, 10:14:00 am »
So, she's not teh good at doing teh maths. :koolaid
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2021, 10:20:30 am »
So, she's not teh good at doing teh maths. :koolaid
haha!

Yeah, I hadn't considered that angle.

Maybe she truly is mentally ill.

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 10:33:32 am »
On one hand, I think the media availability stuff is silly. I hardly ever watch post-game press conferences, maybe like 1% of all sporting events. I also wouldn’t read any quotes generated by her post-match interviews. So it’s of limited value to me.

On the other hand, she gets paid an ungodly amount of money to do her job. A job millions of people covet. And she signs the contracts to compete in these events, of which a post-match interview is required. So she should complete her obligations.

On mental health, if she is autistic or at the very least dealing with social anxiety, I wish her the best of luck conquering that.

There’s another thing going around that she’s no good on clay anyways so she used this opportunity to do some woke BLM publicity stunt and it backfired. Idk, just what I’ve heard
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2021, 10:49:30 am »
I grew up with McEnroe providing endless lulz with the media and that was priceless.

Whatever, rules are rules. If part of her job requires press conference process then she knows the rules. And the costs for violating the rules.

She's awful at doing math.  Like really fvcking terrible as has been shown.  :lol

Ultimately she should be punched in the face.
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2021, 11:51:34 am »
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If you ever watch tennis losers in their post-match media sessions you'll see that they are sour, grumpy, and sometimes combative if they feel a reporter is saying things they don't want to hear.
They definitely DO NOT enjoy being in that room.

When I first read this I thought the "they" you were referring to was the actual press itself and I thought, hmm, sounds like the White House press corp lefties that used to always hammer Trump, but now give Dementia Joe a pass.  :popcorn

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2021, 06:02:11 pm »
Deer Mod(s),

Can we move this POS to the Other Sports forum, puhleez.

It's important to keep some order here in case traffic were to pick up.

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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 06:15:12 pm »
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Re: Naomi Osaka withdraws from the French Open
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2021, 08:05:48 am »
True.
But I don't think that's what is going on here.

Consider...


If Osaka had gotten to the semifinals (a pretty safe bet), she would have earned $454 000.
It is actually quite possible/likely that she would have made the finals, or even won the event -- and earned a lot more than that.
But let's be conservative.

By winning five matches (to get to the semis) she would have racked up fines of $75,000 for not speaking to the press.
So she would have come away from the event with just a bit under $400,000.

As it is, she came away $15,000 in the hole.
Not only that, she blew a chance to win another major, which would have been her 3rd in a row.
She also badly hurt her chances of reaching #1 in the world.

That is quite a self-inflicted wound she decided to deliver to herself.

She is also not embroiled in any kind of feud with the media.

So my read on this situation is that she is not trying to be "uppity," or bratty, or a kunt.
She could have rolled like that and played all of the matches -- and maybe even had won the event.

Nope.
My read here is that she has a legit mental issue.

In fact, there was an incident with her and the press after one of her matches at Wimbledon two years ago.
She broke down in tears during the post-match press conference.

If it is in fact a real mental issue, I assume most people would say that she should get professional help so that she can fulfill her obligation to speak to the press after her matches.

Then I would ask you...

Why should the players be required to speak to the media?

Players in other sports sometimes do not.

You might remember that one of the great left handed pitchers of all time, S. Carlton, refused to speak to the media for nearly all of his career.

Why can't the tennis players just choose not to speak?

She's won multiple majors and is probably a bonafide celebrity in Japan.

I don't think she cares about a few hundred thousand here an there. She wanted to make a point, I suppose.
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