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Howie's True Hollywood Stories - The Gays
« on: May 29, 2022, 08:38:50 am »
I know some of you don't like to read so I'll try to keep this short. This was told to me by various sources including fellow Background Artists, crew members of the show and the actual actor affected.

Have you been watching a TV show or movie in the last 10-20 years or so and all of a sudden there's some gay/lesbian/transgender character(s) just kind of inexplicably shoehorned in there? Something that doesn't make a lot of sense and does not move the story along much and just seems like tokenism? Well, there's a reason for that.

The pilot episode of Turn: Washington's Spies filmed here (I was in close to 20 episodes but not the pilot) and they sent it to be screened by a test audience who had to fill out a questionnaire afterwards. The results came back overwhelmingly in favor but one of the most common complaints was that there were no homosexual characters in the show.

So the writers reworked the script and changed Will Robeson (played by Jamie Harris) into a gay man despite the lack of historical evidence to suggest that. Now, keep in mind that this is a show based on true history and actual events. Of course it's difficult if not impossible to get everything right about something that happened 200+ years ago and some blanks need to be filled in as accurately as can be. These writers just basically flipped a coin and said, "OK, this guy's gay."

Jamie Harris was super cool. He was one of the few actual actors that would talk to the extras. In between scenes he would sit there and tell us all kind of crazy stories, some pretty insane stuff honestly. One time another extra asked him about this particular situation and his response was (I'm paraphrasing) something along the lines of, "I didn't like that they changed me into a Poof (his actual word), but the check still cashed!"

The basic consensus I got from talking to these various insiders is that there is a box you have to check off in order to get your production picked up. One of those boxes apparently is LGBTQ and whatever other letters you want to tag on there.

When I first started auditioning the personal information sheet you had to fill out had 2 choices for gender. Male or Female. Recently I have gotten 5 choices. Male. Female. Non-Binary. Transgender. And "I identify as..." - basically a fill-in-the-blank.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2022, 09:11:36 am »
there is only 2 genders - you don't get to pick.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2022, 09:14:52 am »
there is only 2 genders - you don't get to pick.

Depends on who you ask actually:

  "Agender
    Androgyne
    Androgynous
    Bigender
    Cis
    Cisgender
    Cis Female
    Cis Male
    Cis Man
    Cis Woman
    Cisgender Female
    Cisgender Male
    Cisgender Man
    Cisgender Woman
    Female to Male
    FTM
    Gender Fluid
    Gender Nonconforming
    Gender Questioning
    Gender Variant
    Genderqueer
    Intersex
    Male to Female
    MTF
    Neither
    Neutrois
    Non-binary
    Other
    Pangender
    Trans
    Trans*
    Trans Female
    Trans* Female
    Trans Male
    Trans* Male
    Trans Man
    Trans* Man
    Trans Person
    Trans* Person
    Trans Woman
    Trans* Woman
    Transfeminine
    Transgender
    Transgender Female
    Transgender Male
    Transgender Man
    Transgender Person
    Transgender Woman
    Transmasculine
    Transsexual
    Transsexual Female
    Transsexual Male
    Transsexual Man
    Transsexual Person
    Transsexual Woman
    Two-Spirit"

58 and counting so far.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2022, 09:52:12 am »
You would have to think that, in Hollywood, if you identify as 'just' male it would be a strike against you.

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2022, 10:18:04 am »
That's not too far off. I haven't gotten any roles in just over two years now. Not saying that I haven't gotten any casting call opportunities, just that the ones I have gotten do not fit my profile.

They're mainly looking for "people of color" and those who are "gender fluid",

The last two offers I got that they were specifically looking for my "type" were for a white guy spitting on a black slave (Good Lord Bird) and a white guy yelling racial slurs at a young black basketball player (Swagger). I auditioned for both but was not selected. Guess I wasn't believable that much.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2022, 10:47:50 am »
*Roll Credits*
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2022, 12:39:35 pm »
Must be how steef runs this pacle... :uhh
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2022, 02:07:11 pm »
Only the political left can get away with demanding we follow the science whilst calling people whom disagree with them stupid,  and uneducated, soufdum 'science deniers'  all whilst denying the most obvious and clear cut science.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2022, 03:22:49 pm »
Only the political left can get away with demanding we follow the science whilst calling people whom disagree with them stupid,  and uneducated, soufdum 'science deniers'  all whilst denying the most obvious and clear cut science.

Believe the Science that there are more than two genders outside of an xx or xy chromosome
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2022, 04:58:50 pm »
I know some of you don't like to read so I'll try to keep this short.

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2022, 05:13:34 pm »
Rob is malting.  Brother. Reach out.
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2022, 05:31:00 pm »
You lied.  referee1
Dude c'mon, for me that is brief.  ::)
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2022, 07:33:59 pm »


Teh Gays??? :uhh
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2022, 04:48:42 pm »


Howie's true desire :lol
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